Lian Li F1: The Desk As the Computer
by Joshua Buss on August 7, 2005 7:35 AM EST- Posted in
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Final Thoughts
Anyone who has ever used a computer long enough will surely attest to the difference that a nice desk makes. While someone with plenty to spend on an elite work center certainly has numerous options, most expensive wooden desks are not inspired or designed by true technology enthusiasts. We do not feel that it does this desk justice to try to evaluate whether or not it is worth the asking price by looking at it piece by piece because plenty of people out there will be perfectly happy with a forty-dollar plastic fold-up table for their desk. Instead, we feel as though this product fills a niche for the consumer who has already decided that they have a certain price range in mind or for the elitist who simply wants either "the best" or at least something totally new and different.A better question then emerges; would the F1 / F2 drive someone who is looking for a very nice desk (but perhaps around the $1,000 price point and not the $3,000 one) to consider spending three times as much for this type of product? This is a tough call. While the Lian Li desk certainly is one of the best of computer desks, it is also the only of its kind. Other manufacturers might see the release of this product as a chance to get into the same business as well, so it's very possible that the F1 / F2 will have competition in the future, and thus lowering the price - but for now, if someone is looking for a desk like this, they really do not have anything to compare it to.
What we can say about the latest from Lian Li is that it is very well designed, manufactured, and finished, and that it represents something completely unique - definately a product that is at the very top of its class. There just isn't much about the F1 that we reviewed that we didn't like, and the PC V1000 case is also one of the very best ATX cases available on the market today - a perfect combination. If you have the kind of dough to even consider something like this, it comes very highly recommended from us here at AnandTech.
Once more, there is a sub-article also available that illustrates the whole assembly process in greater detail for those seriously interested in this desk. The zip can be downloaded by clicking here.
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Kensei - Sunday, August 7, 2005 - link
Even though it's very expensive, I think this was a great item to review. The concept of building a desk to house a particular case is turly unique offering possibilities that couldn't be realized when the two are manufactured indepently of each other. I suspect more synergies will emerge in the future. IMHO, the desk doesn't provide enough value above other much less expensive options to be worth the $3K price tag, but the market will decide if there is demand for such a desk.Regarding the writing, here are some things that should have been caught. For example, the second sentence states... "Since the title of this article has already given away the fact that this is about a computer desk,..." How would I know from the title, Lian Li F1, that this article is about a computer desk?
Also, there is no explicit description of the price. There is a sentence at the end of the article which states... "A better question then emerges; would the F1 / F2 drive someone who is looking for a very nice desk (but perhaps around the $1,000 price point and not the $3,000 one) to consider..." This is the only reference to price I could find so I guess the price of the Lian Li F1 is $3000. Is there another reference I missed?
I could go on but I'll stop here. If this were the blog of a college sophmore, I wouldn't care. But, this is professional journalism from one of the largest hardware review sites on the entire internet. It should be much tighter.
Kensei
UltraWide - Sunday, August 7, 2005 - link
It looks nice, but what makes it $3000? I don't see anything really special about it. I mean it doesn't even come with the computer case or anything.http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/microsite/f...">Modular furniture
I think that for around $1,000 you can build yourself a very nice work space with that above. I have the corner and the shorter table to create an L shape and it's great. It has cable management rails and optional keyboard drawers. The finish is durable and very high quality.
Kensei - Sunday, August 7, 2005 - link
I don't think we disagree on the price issue. As I stated in my original posting, I don't think the workstation brings enough additional value to the party to justify the 3K price tag. You'd have to ask Lian Li why they think it's worth 3K.On the other hand, just becuase I think it has little "bang for the buck", doesn't mean I feel it shouldn't have been reviewed. It's a very interesting design concept (well, at least to me) that may or may not be adopted in the future by other manufacturers at probably much lower price points.
Regarding other less expensive options, The F1 is not competing against "do-it-yourselfers". My guess is that the F1 may be attractive to people who don't have the skill, time, or desire to build their own desk workstation but do have significant disposable income. 3K is not a lot of money to some people. Whether or not there are enough of those people for Lian Li to turn even a small profit on this desk has yet to be determined.
Kensei
Tamale - Sunday, August 7, 2005 - link
It does include a case. The PC-V1000 is included, which retails for right around $200 normally.Penth - Monday, August 8, 2005 - link
Perhaps more people would consider this if that case had 2 7800GTX in SLI, an Athlon X2 4800+, 2GB RAM, a Raptor, and an X-Fi.Honestly though, $3000 for that desk is pretty rediculous. We custom built an oak desk that wraps around our 2 walls of our computer room, running around 24 feet and it only cost a few hundred dollars. That includes stands for each computer, and soon a stand for my multiple monitors. A much better value, and probably functionality.
I think this desk is a few years late and probably would have done well during the .com bubble paired with an Aeron from Herman Miller.
imaheadcase - Sunday, August 7, 2005 - link
That is such a waste of money if you don't get a longer keyboard tray. The standard kwyboard tray is fine if you just do plain work on computer. But if you play games you need a long keyboard tray for huge mousepad, mouse and keyboard.Personally you can get a better desk if you built one yourself. Home Depot, Lowes sell desk material in diffrent shapes and sizes you can make one yourself. Heck find a cabinet maker and he can make a nicer one for cheap but practical.
That Li desk is WAY overprices, let alone practical.
Zirconium - Sunday, August 7, 2005 - link
I won't attest to that. Of all the desks I've used, I still prefer the good-old simple kind. One of the most useful desks I've seen was at a friend's house: two milk crates stacked on each side, and a door placed over them. That sucker was huge, had a nice hole to run the cables through, since it was so cheap, he didn't mind screwing power strips and other things to the underside of it, and guess what? IT WAS FREE: 4 milk crates he stole from the supermarket where he worked, and a solid door someone was throwing out. A little cleanup, and he had a pretty nice desk, albeit without the bells and whistles.
semo - Sunday, August 7, 2005 - link
now that's what a computer desk should be!but seriously, the best "computer desk" for me personally is one that is wide and has only 4 legs. that way you have easy access to your case and cables. ironically, those simple old design desks are often really expensive. most computer desks come with those flimsy keyboard trays and special higher levels for the monitor which cause neck strains since you should be looking down on a monitor not up.
and exactly why do you need a special compartment for the computer case? what's it for? what's the idea? what am i missing? this is not the only desk i've seen this on.
Hacp - Sunday, August 7, 2005 - link
Theres a 5000 version out there isn't there?retrospooty - Sunday, August 7, 2005 - link
If so I can't see many people buying it. It's a nice PC desk for $500, but $3000 is rediculous. I have been shopping around recently, and beleive me, there are many other desk's out there that have nice cable management and even better features for alot less money. They have no multimedia ports, but seriously, you can but a 12 in 1 reader like that for $30, the value added to have it mounted on your desk is just not worth the extra $2500 you pay LOL