Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe: NVIDIA Dual x16 for the Athlon 64
by Wesley Fink on November 6, 2005 9:00 AM EST- Posted in
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8-Phase Power and Dual x16 PCIe
Two areas really stand out with the new Asus A8N32-SLI. First, this is the launch of a true dual x16 SLI board. That means that you can bridge two video cards at full x16 speed in each slot instead of the x8 speed of current SLI.
8-Phase Power
The new Asus 32-SLI boards, both the recently tested P5N32-SLI for Intel processors and this A8N32-SLI for AMD, are the first 8-phase desktop boards that we have tested. Those who have questioned whether the design is truly 8-phase will be interested in this shot with the MOSFET heatsinks removed on the Intel version. There are 8 coils and 8 banks of MOSFETS along the two sides of the CPU.
Low ripple voltage can stabilize the CPU at working voltage, but it also can increase the over-clocking margin. An Asus White Paper uses the analogy of ripple voltage being like waves in an ocean and the CPU is like a boat. It is very hard for a boat to go forward in big waves (High ripple voltage), and the big waves can even turn the boat around (Burnout of the CPU). On the other hand, it is easy for a boat to move forward in small waves (Low ripple voltage), and the boat can even go faster (Overclocking the CPU) in an ocean with small waves.
The other advantages of 8-phase are a current reduction of up to 50% compared to 4-phase, which can yield a power reduction of about 25% over 4-phase. This even applies to a reduction in power consumption in a high-end CPU. Asus claims that a CPU requiring 130W in a 4-phase design will see a 10% reduction in power consumption in an 8-phase design.
Dual x16 PCIe
While both the P5N32-SLI for Intel and this A8N32-SLI for AMD provide two full speed 16-bit slots for SLI, they use a slightly different set of chipsets to drive this feature. This AMD version uses what is basically a C51 Northbridge chip without integrated graphics for the A8N32-SLI North Bridge and an nForce4 SLI chip for the South Bridge. In this hybrid design, each bridge drives one x16 slot and a total of 40 PCIe lanes are available to the board.
The Intel processor solution from NVIDIA uses the Intel C19 for the Northbridge and the same nForce4 SLI for the South Bridge. The 2 chips communicate via a Hypertransport link just like the chips in the AMD solution.
Whatever the differences in approach, both the Intel and AMD versions provide full dual x16 PCIe slots, which can be combined into Dual x16 SLI video. There are also other potential design uses as you saw in the Gigabyte quad PCIe review, where the board could enable four x8 PCIe slots to drive up to 10 monitors.
Two areas really stand out with the new Asus A8N32-SLI. First, this is the launch of a true dual x16 SLI board. That means that you can bridge two video cards at full x16 speed in each slot instead of the x8 speed of current SLI.
8-Phase Power
The new Asus 32-SLI boards, both the recently tested P5N32-SLI for Intel processors and this A8N32-SLI for AMD, are the first 8-phase desktop boards that we have tested. Those who have questioned whether the design is truly 8-phase will be interested in this shot with the MOSFET heatsinks removed on the Intel version. There are 8 coils and 8 banks of MOSFETS along the two sides of the CPU.
| CPU Current 100A | 2-Phase | 3-Phase | 4-Phase | 8-Phase |
| Input Ripple Current (A) | 22.63 | 16.508 | 12.359 | 4.463 |
Low ripple voltage can stabilize the CPU at working voltage, but it also can increase the over-clocking margin. An Asus White Paper uses the analogy of ripple voltage being like waves in an ocean and the CPU is like a boat. It is very hard for a boat to go forward in big waves (High ripple voltage), and the big waves can even turn the boat around (Burnout of the CPU). On the other hand, it is easy for a boat to move forward in small waves (Low ripple voltage), and the boat can even go faster (Overclocking the CPU) in an ocean with small waves.
The other advantages of 8-phase are a current reduction of up to 50% compared to 4-phase, which can yield a power reduction of about 25% over 4-phase. This even applies to a reduction in power consumption in a high-end CPU. Asus claims that a CPU requiring 130W in a 4-phase design will see a 10% reduction in power consumption in an 8-phase design.
Dual x16 PCIe
While both the P5N32-SLI for Intel and this A8N32-SLI for AMD provide two full speed 16-bit slots for SLI, they use a slightly different set of chipsets to drive this feature. This AMD version uses what is basically a C51 Northbridge chip without integrated graphics for the A8N32-SLI North Bridge and an nForce4 SLI chip for the South Bridge. In this hybrid design, each bridge drives one x16 slot and a total of 40 PCIe lanes are available to the board.
The Intel processor solution from NVIDIA uses the Intel C19 for the Northbridge and the same nForce4 SLI for the South Bridge. The 2 chips communicate via a Hypertransport link just like the chips in the AMD solution.
Whatever the differences in approach, both the Intel and AMD versions provide full dual x16 PCIe slots, which can be combined into Dual x16 SLI video. There are also other potential design uses as you saw in the Gigabyte quad PCIe review, where the board could enable four x8 PCIe slots to drive up to 10 monitors.
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deeltje - Saturday, November 5, 2005 - link
________________________________________________________________________________________I've been waiting for this board for over 2 weeks now and it still isn't available anywhere in europe.
So i would love to get this board shipped from USA to The Netherlands (where i live).
Does anyone know a good USA Computershop that has these boards in stock and accept Mastercard payments!?!?!?!?
I don't care about the shippingcosts, as long as they can ship FAST :)
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Tanclearas - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link
If we're supposed to upgrade to new drivers to take advantage of improvements, Nvidia needs to seriously work on their driver upgrades, especially the platform drivers. To avoid problems, we have to use a third-party driver cleaner. The only users that seem to get NAM working are those that do a fresh install of Windows. Any attempt to upgrade drivers and enable NAM results in BSOD.This has been brought up before, with AT staff saying that it would be looked into if we could point to information about the problems. Users posted links to forum threads of users experiencing the problem, and there have been more threads since Nvidia released new drivers, but still we wait to hear any follow-up from AT or Nvidia.
Brian23 - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link
seriously.I'm running 6.66 forceware drivers right now. I'm thinking about formatting so I can get that 17% increase from 6.82. However, I have an ATI card. Is the performance increase due to the forceware drivers, or the graphics drivers? Or is it from the combination of the two?
Either way, we need a way to upgrade the drivers safely without all the crap of reformatting.
Wesley Fink - Saturday, November 5, 2005 - link
The 6.82 platform drivers are officially just for Dual X16. The latest platform driver for the regular nForce4/SLI chipset is 6.70. The video drivers that boost performance are the 8x.xx series. The released version on the nVidia website is 81.85 which can be used to improve performance of all recent nVidia video cards. There is also a Beta 81.87 floating around.bob661 - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link
Aren't the 6.82's for the x16 motherboards only?psychobriggsy - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link
Thanks for the review.This is a really nice looking motherboard. The passive cooling is very much welcomed, and the 8-phase power is interesting, and if it saves power that's good.
I hope that nVidia sort out their audio woes soon however. I look at my >30 month old nForce2 system and that's got way better integrated audio. On a $200 motherboard, is the dolby fee really an issue?
I could only see one SATA connector for the SI SATA.
3 PCI slots is nice for backwards compatibility, but in the long run things will emerge for PCIe, and the x4 slot is great and all (esp. for a decent SATA RAID card, then again, there's 6 fricking SATA ports already on the motherboard), but would it have done much harm to have another PCIe slot in place of one of the PCI slots? As long as the middle PCI slot was left for a decent audio card anyway.
How are the Firewire, SATA and Gigabit controllers connected? Via PCI or PCIe?
How does the power draw at the socket compare with other solutions?
cyberfrog4646 - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link
I've read a bunch of complaints on the recent Asus boards that the chipset fans are quite loud and have been breaking down. Is that a potential problem on this board?Perfomance to cost wise, is their any reason to choose the Asus over the DFI board?
Zebo - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link
BTW all you got to do is replace chipset fan with a passive chipset heat sink on any asus' budget boards... like $5.. I do anyway on any board ( I cut stock heat sinks in quarters on my table saw). Can't stand those 6000+ rpm whinners.. that particular high pitched tone is really ear pierceing to me.Capt Caveman - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link
Umm, this motherboard doesn't have any chipset fans but uses passive heatpipes for cooling. Did you read the review or look at the pics?cyberfrog4646 - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link
HAHAHAH, whoops, i just looked at the benchmarks and conclusion. I thought the the pipe was for the cpu based on the opening picture. Ah well, thanks for the info.