Extreme cooling results

ASUS Maximus Extreme
Dual-Core Overclocking / Benchmark Testbed
Processor Intel Core 2 Duo Q6850
Dual-Core, 3.00GHz, 4MB Shared Cache, 9x Multiplier, 1333FSB
CPU Voltage 1.300V
Cooling Various - Dual Rotary Cascades made by LittleDevil and Johann
Power Supply OCZ Pro Xstream 1000w, PCP&C 1200w
Memory OCZ DDR3 PC3-14400 (DDR-1800) Platinum Edition (2G/4GB)
Memory Settings 4-4-4-12 1N (DDR3-1066 Base)
Video Cards MSI 8800 GTX
Video Drivers NVIDIA 169.09
Hard Drive Western Digital 7200RPM 250GB - WD2500KS
Optical Drives Plextor PX-755A
Case Dimastech benching table
BIOS 0803
Operating System Windows XP Professional SP2
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3D Mark 2001SE CPU @ 4.88GHz GPU @ 861/1000



3D Mark 2003 CPU @ 4.88GHz GPU @ 861/1000



3D Mark 2005 CPU @ 4.88GHz GPU @ 861/1000



Aquamark 3 - CPU @ 5.084GHz GPU @ 840/1000



Super Pi 1M - CPU @ 5.084GHz



The 266 Northbridge strap worked up to 550FSB for us; at higher FSB speeds, we used the 333 strap and the 5:8 memory divider. The lowest Performance Level (tRD) we managed to hold stable over 560FSB on both the 333 and 400 straps was 9. VNB on our test board needed to be at least 1.71V and up for runs over 540FSB. RAM was another area we did not stress too far. The board overvolts VDIMM by around 0.05V, so we try to stay under 2.2V even for short sprint benchmarks.

The extreme cooled benchmarking was the one area we thought this board would really excel, and initial testing was very promising. We had no problems booting up at 9x570FSB within the first 10 minutes of each benching session. As time progressed, we found that we had to drop the FSB levels in order for the board to remain stable. Initially, our E6850 CPU was showing no signs of error during 3D benchmark testing at 565FSB (5.085GHz). Ten minutes later, any attempts to repeat or improve our scores proved futile. We checked cascade evaporator temps and contact, to ensure that inadequate cooling under heavy load didn't cause the decrease in stability.

Ambient temperatures in our test area were 8C, providing both the CPU and GPU cascades with plenty of support under heavy load. We checked our findings with a few extreme benchmarkers, to see if this "cold-bug" issue only occurred on our sample motherboard. Unfortunately, the answers we received in reply all suggested similar issues. The first boot into XP over 5GHz CPU speed is no problem, but subsequent re-boot attempts are limited to CPU speeds under 4.95GHz. The issue itself does not appear to be limited to particular CPUs either; we have heard examples of 45nm QX9650's succumbing to the same problem. It is probable that this issue involves PWM overvoltage and/or over-current protection. Benchmarks like Super Pi 1M still are fine at higher FSB speeds, while a slightly heavier load like Aquamark 3 fails after the initial attempt.

In this case using less Vcore than the absolute threshold for the circuit to trip may actually help achieve better stability. In our case, the only workaround for this situation was to bench for 10 minutes at a time, shut the board down, let everything return to ambient temperatures and then start again. If this issue is common, users with LN2 will be again hunting for modifications/BIOS fixes and perhaps even board revisions to enable true extreme benchmarking. Due to this constant on/off procedure and the attendant time constraints, we were not able to fine-tune the board to its full capabilities. Still, we are satisfied with our results.

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  • retrospooty - Monday, December 10, 2007 - link

    Wireless works yes. They are linked up through the base and work in dos mode. Both RF, and bluetooth meese work.
  • kilkennycat - Monday, December 10, 2007 - link

    I notice from the board picture that the rear mounting holes are still in the corners of the board, so if the WIDTH is 4cm more than the standard ATX, does the board need special mounting ? I assume that WIDTH means the distance across the edge of the board in contact with the rear of the case. Please correct if my assumption is wrong.
  • Rajinder Gill - Monday, December 10, 2007 - link

    THe width is the length across the top edge of the board. Screw hole spacing is still standard ATX, just that this board over-hangs by a few cm (the Sata port end will protrude further into your case) ...

    regards
    Raja
  • kilkennycat - Monday, December 10, 2007 - link

    As yes, you actually mean DEPTH of course, if referencing tower case dimensions (Height x Width x Depth). So any case wishing to accommodate this board needs to have at least 4cm DEEPER front to rear clearance for the motherboard, nothing to do with it being a mid-tower or full-tower. Am I right?

    Might also preclude using this MB in those cases having the motherboard mounted on a slide-in ATX tray ( a great feature, btw ), as they may have a lip or other registration hardware on the leading-edge of the tray.
  • retrospooty - Monday, December 10, 2007 - link

    What size are they? I cant find it here, or on Asus's site. They look like 1/4 inch - which kind of sucks.
  • Rajinder Gill - Monday, December 10, 2007 - link

    The fittings are 1/4", but ASUS does provide adapetrs to use 1/2 tubing..

    Raja..

  • retrospooty - Monday, December 10, 2007 - link

    thanks... bummer. 1/4 restricts my flow.

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