ASUS ROG Rampage Formula: Why we were wrong about the Intel X48
by Kris Boughton on January 25, 2008 4:30 AM EST- Posted in
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The Rules of Working with tRD: What's Allowed and What Isn't
We mentioned earlier that there are a few rules pertaining to the modification of the default tRD value for a particular memory subsystem configuration. These rules are actually more of a set of equations that we have derived in order to assist the user in pre-determining whether or not a system will POST and operate given the settings in question. They can also be used to explain after the fact why certain configurations refuse to function.
In actuality, there is only one requirement that must be satisfied when setting tRD: The MCH must have a minimum amount of time to complete the clock crossing procedure for each data bit translated from one clocking domain to the other. We have shown the equation below for those that care to know. Unfortunately it does not lend itself well to being solved as the input variables ("t0" and "tckxss") are not readily obtainable.
"t0" is the total time it takes data being returned to the CPU as read in memory to cross from the memory bus domain to the system data bus domain. This is dependent on a number of variables, including memory burst length (4 or 8 cycles), Command Rate (1N or 2N), the memory divider in use, CAS (tCL) timing, and the current FSB. "tckxss" is a little more esoteric in nature and is outside the scope of this discussion; the value is generally very small when compared to "t0". The difference in these times, rounded to the lowest integer plus one, bounds the lowest potential tRD setting necessary for data to be properly transferred from one bus to the other.
Because the first expression is too difficult to warrant everyday use, we spent many hours populating a large test matrix table created for recording the POST (Power On Self Test) results of every strap/divider/FSB/CAS setting combination that our test bench was physically capable of supporting. Using this data, we then developed the method and equation you see above, which can determine whether or not a desired memory subsystem configuration will work. It is possible, and rather probable, that there is another step discontinuity in the logic for FSB speeds in excess of the high value in our test range (466MHz). We will leave the discovery of some such value up to others - unless Intel is kind enough to send us additional 45nm dual-core processors, in which case further testing on our part might be justified.
Entering arguments for the use of the "POST Test Equation" are as follows: tRD, in clocks; tCL (CAS), in clocks; FSB, in megahertz (MHz); N, the memory divider in use, expressed in fractional form (i.e. 3:2 would be 3/2); and "x", which should be chosen from the options provided, depending on the FSB in use. Evaluate the left and right side of the equation separately. The expression is satisfied if the left (actual margin) is greater than but not equal to the right (the minimum required margin).
There are no units purposefully associated with these numbers, as this equation is intended as nothing more than a test to determine whether a system will POST using the desired parameters. If the expression is false, the configuration/system will fail to boot; if it is true then the configuration is allowed and the POST event should at least occur. Keep in mind that this equation provides absolutely no assurance that the system will be stable at the settings provided - just because you want to run your memory at DDR2-1200 CAS 3 and the equation says this is possible, does not mean that your wish will be fulfilled. Let's go through a quick exercise of what we have learned regarding the proper use of the "POST Test Equation" with a few practical examples.
If you can follow these examples then you are ready to move on to the next step - determining optimal system performance points and then validating your results. There are many choices when it comes to deciding how to configure a system for the best possible experience. Some choices are clearly better while other decisions may come to down to personal preference. For instance, some users may be willing to subject their expensive hardware components to higher voltages, creating an environment of accelerated wear and earlier failure. Others may be far less concerned with the consequences of their choices; in either case the trade-offs will be clear. We will now take what we have learned and provide our rationale for why we would feel one overclocking approach to be superior to another. After all, overclocking should always be based on an intelligent decision making process and not the clumsy application of brute-force.
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Bozo Galora - Friday, January 25, 2008 - link
Yet another world class article by Mr. BoughtonNot only do you give the insight, but you make it easily UNDERSTANDABLE.
You da man
AndyKH - Friday, January 25, 2008 - link
Also... is this tRD adjustment only possible with a X48 board? If not, I would have preferred that this article was kept seperate from an article about a specific motherboard. Don't get me wrong, I think it is a very informative article :-).If it is possible to adjust the tRD on other chipsets than the X48, can the possibility of setting the tRD as low as 5 then be attributed to the X48?
Gary Key - Friday, January 25, 2008 - link
tRD functionality within the BIOS is dependent upon the motherboard manufacturer. We have been harping on the motherboard suppliers to fully open up the BIOS on the enthusiast boards, this includes tRD and associated phase changes. ASUS is one of the first (DFI also) to offer an extensive range of settings in this particular area (most BIOS releases handle tRD adjustments automatically). We debated on separating the article content but due to the BIOS options available, they were more or less tied to each other. Yes, if tRD is available in the BIOS, it can be set on other Intel based boards or chipsets. In fact, I had very good success on the ASUS 780i board with tRD adjustments. Thanks for the comments! :)Georgeisdead - Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - link
Would tRD be called something else? Perhaps Read to Write Delay (tRWD)? I have an EVGA 680i board and I cannot find the tRD setting. I don't even see it as an available option with memset 3.4. Does anyone know of a synonym for tRD?Brunnis - Friday, January 25, 2008 - link
The Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 has a BIOS option to set tRD and I seem to remember that it had a large effect on memory performance. Would this be the setting that you talk about here. If it is, it seems ASUS isn't the first one to offer it.Shoal07 - Friday, January 25, 2008 - link
Can anyone confirm you can set the tRD to anything besides innoculous settings like "auto" "high" and "low" on the GA-P35-DS3, and specify if its the L or R? Also, what memory was used in this test? (I read the whole article and I don't recall the specs of the system/testbed as a whole).Brunnis - Friday, January 25, 2008 - link
I have checked my GA-P35-DS3 again. The option is labeled "Static tRead Value" in the BIOS and can be set to any integer value between 1 and 31. Modifying this value changes the "Performance Level" as reported by the Windows program MemSet 3.4 accordingly. Changing the value from 8 to 7 on my board yielded the following results in Sisoft Sandra bandwidth benchmark:tRD 7: 7117 / 7139 (MB/s)
trD 8: 7026 / 7045 (MB/s)
Pretty large different from changing a single timing one step.
AndyKH - Friday, January 25, 2008 - link
Is it correctly understood that no other motherboards allow the tRD to be adjusted from within the BIOS, or is it simply because this board has named the setting something sensible? I think the article is a bit unclear about that.legoman666 - Friday, January 25, 2008 - link
Very enlightening article. The only thing missing are real world application tests showing the benefits in office applications, games (most important ;) ), and encoding.Gary Key - Friday, January 25, 2008 - link
We will have full application benchmarks in the X48 roundup that Kris and Raja are working on.